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xXDust BunnyXx
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Posted - 2013.01.14 05:36:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:For the record, I'm ok with you people posting your concerns about the SP cap. It still needs tweeking and I'm open to ideas. However, now I'm starting to see threads that give people a false sense of value for SP gains such as the one that asked for SP in FW (lolwut?).
People, SP is just for one thing and one thing only: training for better gear. It's no different than Eve Online where people simply log in, queue up their skill, and then log off. In Eve Online, SP is just a clock giving you an estimate as to when you might get to use something. In Dust, I see it as nothing more than a clock as well and thus it means nothing to me in any other context.
But it seems that people here are treating SP as if it's something far more important than ISK rewards or even Faction Warfare influence. As if people are DESPERATE to want to be in proto anything as soon as possible and thus come up with any excuse to want to make SP more farmable.
Why? I mean, you are not going to be able to train all of the skill books completely anyways for the next seven years and that's just with the skill books we have now and not including future skill books we might receive in the coming years. So why are people acting like they are in a rush to reach level-five-everything?
I blame COD / HALO for this. Their SP systems encouraged this problem. Finally someone that, like me, enjoy killing people when they'r at the same level. I think SP are just fine, we are mercenaries and should fight for isks....
Fight for iskies? Idk about you but I have 100b on my eve account, when we can transfer isk to dust who cares about isk? 0 incentive imo. |
xXDust BunnyXx
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Posted - 2013.01.14 05:46:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:xXDust BunnyXx wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Finally someone that, like me, enjoy killing people when they'r at the same level. I think SP are just fine, we are mercenaries and should fight for isks.... Fight for iskies? Idk about you but I have 100b on my eve account, when we can transfer isk to dust who cares about isk? 0 incentive imo. And that's why you still can't transfer them imo
Ya its exactly why you can't atm, but here my point in eve you can kill 1 belt rat(god forbid) and that's enough to cover advanced tank with fittings. In like 5 Mins you could have alto of tanks, and alot of ppl here have eve accounts, so you see dust isk is crappy very bottom tier isk rewards, less then a belt rat frigate. So isk really will have no influence in dust, when the faction in eve wins their district they're making more isk, and I'm not talking a million isk, im talking making way way more especially long term. In eve a mill isk is like .00001 isk in dust, see where im getting? It has no bearing. |
xXDust BunnyXx
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Posted - 2013.01.14 06:03:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:xXDust BunnyXx wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:xXDust BunnyXx wrote:
Finally someone that, like me, enjoy killing people when they'r at the same level. I think SP are just fine, we are mercenaries and should fight for isks....
Fight for iskies? Idk about you but I have 100b on my eve account, when we can transfer isk to dust who cares about isk? 0 incentive imo. And that's why you still can't transfer them imo Ya its exactly why you can't atm, but here my point in eve you can kill 1 belt rat(god forbid) and that's enough to cover advanced tank with fittings. In like 5 Mins you could have alto of tanks, and alot of ppl here have eve accounts, so you see dust isk is crappy very bottom tier isk rewards, less then a belt rat frigate. So isk really will have no influence in dust, when the faction in eve wins their district they're making more isk, and I'm not talking a million isk, im talking making way way more especially long term. In eve a mill isk is like .00001 isk in dust, see where im getting? It has no bearing.
You do realise stuff in DUST will become more expensive right? [/quote]
You do realize it won't matter, we blow 200 mill a few times a day on t2 cruisers, only be concerned if it hit this amount. At current when we can transfer isk I'll send each of my toons 1b isk, which is equal to almost 1000 advanced fit tanks, by the time I've gone through that I'll have already made another 20+b in eve off flipping supers. Even if prices double or triple that's still alot of tanks, and suits+mods...pfffff what an isk joke, come on meow. |
xXDust BunnyXx
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Posted - 2013.01.14 06:09:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I can imagine how expensive things will get once the Eve-DUST economies balance out and players gain control of it. Get ready to spend 10 million ISK on that sniper fit. Hehe.
Honestly I can see it, do to the fact eve players aren't Gunna be nice and get by, by making petty cash from dust. And once the eve market shows the highest selling items to the lowest, which it will.....ull see a huge isk price spike. |
xXDust BunnyXx
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Posted - 2013.01.14 06:09:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Xxdust, are you from goonswarm? Only goons can be willing to drop that much and not give a damn.
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xXDust BunnyXx
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Posted - 2013.01.14 06:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:You see, this is the point I was trying to make. One can now see how powerful ISK can be in comparison to SP. As I said before, SP is just a stepping stone to better gear. ISK and blood is what will drive the economy. Haven't people wondered why CCP is putting so much emphasis on making sure the economies get balanced? Because ISK is the true item of value, not SP. Territory is nice to have, but you only want territory because it will make you ISK and thus one day give you influence on the economy.
It'll give fw Corps and pilots isk, not players who's corps and alliances are not in fw, as far as the districts go anyway. it'll give high sec carebears isk by building then selling the items and it will give market manipulators isk by buying low and selling high, however the ones who hold most of the isk in eve......it gives nothing to whatsoever. So let's say and idk the numbers but im going to say 75%+ of eve players simply pvp in null sec and low sec with 0 interest in the listed above items, hence dust player base, won't really benefit from what happens in dust, like me they're just finally happy that our years harping the eve forums for a game like this came true AND it won't matter what isk they put out to their dust accounts cuz its minimal. Isk will mean nothing to the 75+% |
xXDust BunnyXx
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Posted - 2013.01.14 06:45:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:xXDust BunnyXx wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:You see, this is the point I was trying to make. One can now see how powerful ISK can be in comparison to SP. As I said before, SP is just a stepping stone to better gear. ISK and blood is what will drive the economy. Haven't people wondered why CCP is putting so much emphasis on making sure the economies get balanced? Because ISK is the true item of value, not SP. Territory is nice to have, but you only want territory because it will make you ISK and thus one day give you influence on the economy. It'll give fw Corps and pilots isk, not players who's corps and alliances are not in fw, as far as the districts go anyway. it'll give high sec carebears isk by building then selling the items and it will give market manipulators isk by buying low and selling high, however the ones who hold most of the isk in eve......it gives nothing to whatsoever. So let's say and idk the numbers but im going to say 75%+ of eve players simply pvp in null sec and low sec with 0 interest in the listed above items, hence dust player base, won't really benefit from what happens in dust, like me they're just finally happy that our years harping the eve forums for a game like this came true AND it won't matter what isk they put out to their dust accounts cuz its minimal. Isk will mean nothing to the 75+% You think DUST will only be in FW? It's been confirmed we're getting nullsec sometime. This is a beta and your treating it like full release.
Hmmm now null sec would make it interesting, and at the current rate of development, yes eve player faults....it might as well be full release, anywho I'm assuming if null sec is confirmed then it will control sov, but I don't really see this flying with the major sov holders do you? To leave ur sov in the hands of the ps3 community to a free to play game compared to eve sounds funni and def would get struck down by any current eve CSM. |
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